joi, decembrie 20

talks


I wanted to tell you about my talk I had with this guy in the train. I also have the strange felling I already talked about it...

Anyway so I was on the train, late - that is why I meet him,  and chatted about what can it be done and what can you do to live civilized and in an civilized ...environment, and I said that one thing that motivated me to leave my country was that, meaning here in Holland, sorry - Netherlands, the fact that people do not need to worry to much for the basic needs make them less prone to commit stupid, unnecessary shit. But I also added that everywhere are idiots, crazy ones and just plain evil or stupid ppl that will do commit shit anyway. But less in this environment, country, system. What I was after angry with is not that he didn't agree with my simple point of view but this: as if he didn't listen to what I say he had this idea: no, is not like you said (me) because no matter where you are people will be bad and is nothing you can do about it. Ok, next I tried to explain more: don't you think that if people are poor, if the governmental does not care and if all the system is bad and corrupt, let us overreact a bit..., then the people are at least angry, maybe confused also and for sure many will be desperate so then is more likely shit to happened? Again he just disagreed and his argument was again just: no, many people are bad and that is it. I thought I have some arguments to consider and I had the felling that is not at all the case.

My surprise was in this case also that I thought this guys is a clever and smart one like he always at works speaks first in gatherings and most of the times makes sense, has a good logic and all.

In a way his way of speaking and not listening reminded me of the religious people. On the train, again :), many times I go with a(nother) colleague that lives in my city and he does believe. And when rarely I say things that for me do not go well with existence of God, like the shootings form Connecticut and such, I got always this ambiguous answers and the understanding (a bit condescending even ... maybe) look.

Anyway. You just cannot convince them no matter what.

Next time I want to remind me of a thing that happened 3 years ago when I went home, and was coming back from pizza and a car almost ran over me.